Reporter: Gary Tuchman,
In the latest Democratic debate, presidential
candidate Dennis Kucinich said he's seen one. So
has Jimmy Carter. So did a pilot who traveled
from Iran to Washington so he could speak out
about his encounter with a UFO.
But for years, polling has shown that a
majority of americans believe the government
simply isn't telling all it knows about those
lights in the sky, whatever they are.
If you flew on Air France from Nice to London
on January 28, 1994, your captain says he saw a
UFO 1,000 feet long just outside your
"It seemed to be a huge flying disc,"
explained Jean-Charles Duboc, Retired Air France
The now retired pilot is one of 14 men,
mostly former government and military officials
from 7 different countries, talking about their
experiences with unidentified flying
"The most incredible aspect of it is that it
became transparent and disappeared in about ten
to twenty seconds," says Duboc.
UFO believers often hold conferences, but
this one was a little different. it took place
in Washington, DC, and the cast of characters
was almost strangely, well conventional. One of
the believers: former Governor of Arizona Fife
"I saw something that defied logic and
challenged my reality," describes Symington. "If
you were here ten years ago, and looked at the
lights and the view you would have been
astounded. You would have been amazed."
The so called Phoenix lights were seen by
many people throughout southern Arizona in 1997.
Skeptics say they were military aircraft, or
flares, but not the former governor.
"And I suspect that unless the defense
department tells us otherwise, it was probably
some form of alien spacecraft."
Lots of agreement on this panel, but a
retired Iranian air force pilot says he saw a
UFO while flying.
"It looked similar to a star, but bigger and
General Parviz Jafari, retired from the
Iranian Air Force, says he fired on the UFO, but
much of his plane became inoperative.
Jafari: "All the instruments were
fluctuating. The radio had garble. I couldn't
talk with the pilot.
Tuchman: "Do you think they were aliens?
"Oh yes. Yes. I'm sure."
A retired U.S. Air Force sergeant stationed
in England said he walked up to a UFO that
landed in a forest.
"It maneuvered through the trees and shot off
at an unbelievable rate of speed, tell Sgt.
James Penniston, retired rom the U.S. Air Force.
"It was gone in the blink of an eye."
This month alone, a man running for president
said he saw a UFO on MSNBC.
"I did and the rest of the account. It was an
unidentified flying object," says Dennis
Kucinich, Democratic presidential candidate.
And so did a man who was president -- Jimmy
"I and about 25 others saw something in the
air that changed colors and was round.
Although Carter says he doesn't think it was
possible that it was from another planet, most
of the people at the conference differ on that
point and want the FAA to investigate all of
these claims, but the FAA says that's not its
"We manage the aircraft that we're talking
to," says a FAA representative. "UFO's are
called UFO's because they're unidentified, and
we're not talking to them."
and it's precisely because no one's talking
that everybody here is trying harder to make