Reporter: Gary Tuchman, 
                                CNN
                                
                                In the latest Democratic debate, presidential 
                                candidate Dennis Kucinich said he's seen one. So 
                                has Jimmy Carter. So did a pilot who traveled 
                                from Iran to Washington so he could speak out 
                                about his encounter with a UFO.
                                But for years, polling has shown that a 
                                majority of americans believe the government 
                                simply isn't telling all it knows about those 
                                lights in the sky, whatever they are.
                                If you flew on Air France from Nice to London 
                                on January 28, 1994, your captain says he saw a 
                                UFO 1,000 feet long just outside your 
window.
                                "It seemed to be a huge flying disc," 
                                explained Jean-Charles Duboc, Retired Air France 
                                Captain.
                                The now retired pilot is one of 14 men, 
                                mostly former government and military officials 
                                from 7 different countries, talking about their 
                                experiences with unidentified flying 
objects.
                                "The most incredible aspect of it is that it 
                                became transparent and disappeared in about ten 
                                to twenty seconds," says Duboc.
                                UFO believers often hold conferences, but 
                                this one was a little different. it took place 
                                in Washington, DC, and the cast of characters 
                                was almost strangely, well conventional. One of 
                                the believers: former Governor of Arizona Fife 
                                Symington.
                                "I saw something that defied logic and 
                                challenged my reality," describes Symington. "If 
                                you were here ten years ago, and looked at the 
                                lights and the view you would have been 
                                astounded. You would have been amazed."
                                The so called Phoenix lights were seen by 
                                many people throughout southern Arizona in 1997. 
                                Skeptics say they were military aircraft, or 
                                flares, but not the former governor.
                                "And I suspect that unless the defense 
                                department tells us otherwise, it was probably 
                                some form of alien spacecraft."
                                Lots of agreement on this panel, but a 
                                retired Iranian air force pilot says he saw a 
                                UFO while flying.
                                "It looked similar to a star, but bigger and 
                                brighter."
                                General Parviz Jafari, retired from the 
                                Iranian Air Force, says he fired on the UFO, but 
                                much of his plane became inoperative.
                                Jafari: "All the instruments were 
                                fluctuating. The radio had garble. I couldn't 
                                talk with the pilot.
                                Tuchman: "Do you think they were aliens?
                                "Oh yes. Yes. I'm sure."
                                A retired U.S. Air Force sergeant stationed 
                                in England said he walked up to a UFO that 
                                landed in a forest.
                                "It maneuvered through the trees and shot off 
                                at an unbelievable rate of speed, tell Sgt. 
                                James Penniston, retired rom the U.S. Air Force. 
                                "It was gone in the blink of an eye."
                                This month alone, a man running for president 
                                said he saw a UFO on MSNBC.
                                "I did and the rest of the account. It was an 
                                unidentified flying object," says Dennis 
                                Kucinich, Democratic presidential candidate.
                                And so did a man who was president -- Jimmy 
                                Carter.
                                "I and about 25 others saw something in the 
                                air that changed colors and was round.
                                Although Carter says he doesn't think it was 
                                possible that it was from another planet, most 
                                of the people at the conference differ on that 
                                point and want the FAA to investigate all of 
                                these claims, but the FAA says that's not its 
                                job.
                                "We manage the aircraft that we're talking 
                                to," says a FAA representative. "UFO's are 
                                called UFO's because they're unidentified, and 
                                we're not talking to them."
                                and it's precisely because no one's talking 
                                that everybody here is trying harder to make 
                                them 
                              believe.